Why the Best Creative Careers Don't Follow Rulebooks with Chris Conley from Thread

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Nick Blackmon
July 14, 2025
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Nick Blackmon

Why the Best Creative Careers Don't Follow Rulebooks with Chris Conley from Thread

Designer, dad, and creative director Chris Conley shares his unconventional journey from Apple retail to co-founding Thread, a multi-disciplinary creative studio in Lancaster, Pennsylvania.

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Stop me if this feels personal. You're talented, you're working hard, but you still question whether you're qualified for the creative role that you're already in.

The best creative careers don't follow rulebooks – often they may throw them out entirely. Chris Conley went from Apple retail to design school at 27 to co-founding Thread, a thriving creative studio in Lancaster, PA — proving that sometimes unconventional paths lead to the best creative work.

Five years ago, Chris was questioning whether he deserved the title "creative director" at all , while wearing 50 different hats at Thread. Today, he's built a team that challenges traditional agency models and serves some really dope clients (ones that he couldn’t tell me about under our Friend DA) – but the journey to get there is not what he was expecting when he set out.

Creative careers rarely follow a traditional playbook, which is both liberating and terrifying. If you've ever felt like an imposter in your career, questioned whether your unconventional path is valid, or wondered how to transition from being an individual contributor to a creative leader, then this conversation’s for you.

Episode Overview

On this episode, design-dad Chris Conley proves that creative careers don't follow rulebooks. From working Apple retail for a decade to starting Thread, a multi-disciplinary creative studio in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, Chris's journey challenges conventional wisdom about "proper" creative career progression.

In this honest conversation, Chris reveals the reality of going back to design school at 27 with a newborn, working 100-hour weeks, and learning that education's real value isn't just technical skills - it's building the confidence to defend your creative ideas. He shares the unexpected benefits of choosing local community college over prestigious design schools, finding mentorship in unexpected places, and why collecting diverse stories makes you a better creative problem-solver.

Chris and co-founder Zach Wilson have built Thread into a six-person studio that challenges traditional agency models through profit-sharing, collaborative decision-making, and a focus on authentic client relationships over cold outreach. This episode explores the messy reality of the maker-to-manager transition, why creative directors at small studios wear dozens of hats daily, and how work-life "ballast" might be more realistic than perfect balance.

Whether you're considering a career pivot, thinking about starting your own studio, or wondering how to build sustainable creative businesses, Chris's story offers practical insights wrapped in refreshing honesty about the challenges and rewards of unconventional creative paths.

Key Takeaways

  • Career transitions are rarely linear: Chris's path from Apple retail to music production to design school to agency work to co-founding Thread demonstrates how creative careers often evolve through unexpected opportunities and relationships
  • Education as confidence building: Design school provided Chris not just technical skills, but the confidence and critical thinking needed to defend creative work and build client relationships
  • Partnership dynamics matter: The complementary skills and personalities between Chris (extroverted, relationship-focused) and co-founder Zach (introverted, operations-focused) create a balanced leadership foundation
  • Small studio realities: Creative directors at small studios wear multiple hats daily - from account management to sales to actual creative work
  • Work-life ballast vs. balance: Rather than seeking perfect work-life balance, embracing seasonal intensity allows for both focused work periods and genuine rest

Episode Highlights & Timestamps

  • [7:30] First paid creative project: $100 logo and website for sister-in-law's wedding photography business
  • [12:45] Moving from Knoxville to Lancaster, PA for family - and accidentally falling in love with the city and the Amish
  • [18:30] Going back to design school at 27 with a newborn - the reality of 100-hour weeks
  • [28:15] Why Chris chose local community college over prestigious design schools
  • [34:30] The transition from freelancing to joining Thread as co-founder
  • [41:15] Honest take on the "creative director" title and wearing multiple hats in small business
  • [49:30] Thread's profit-sharing model and why equity "means nothing and everything"

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